Welcome everyone. I'm your host Greg McEwen and I am on this journey with you to learn to be able to apply less but better into every aspect of our lives

so that overall we can achieve more without burning out so that we can operate at a higher point of contribution

but to do it in an effortless way and speaking of less remember the less but

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That's what the less but better course is all about.

This is part two of my conversation with Laidi Clots, who's a professor and also the author of Subtraction.

One of the things I loved about part one when we continue this in today's episode is how much research LIDI has at his fingertips to be able to not just

make these statements that we have learned by experience to be true but also to have the data to back it up to encourage us on this

journey this disciplined pursuit of less. Let's get to it. So, I think this is an important as important an insight into the subject of subtraction

and simplification more generally that there is.

It's that you have to start by subtracting.

It's simplification first.

It's start with zero. It's not, let's see if we can just tweak at the end. That is a form of simplification and it's a very important kind. there's this other more monumental shift in the

mindset where you're looking at the world with a lens of simplification, where you're suspect and suspicious of adding.

And that doesn't mean you never add, but you just always put it through that gate first, question the requirements first, just because something is being sold to you, right?

We have been sold the benefits of every kind of technology for the last, I mean I don't know you could say since the Industrial Revolution, but I mean digital technology over the last something like 30 years. And with every technological

innovation there are people incentivize to sell that additional thing to you

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