Hey friend, this is Julie Sattery and I'm so glad you've joined me for today's Job with Julie episode.

This podcast is a production of authentic intimacy, a ministry dedicated to reclaiming God's design for sexuality.

Our topic today is a huge barrier when it comes to experiencing authentic intimacy and the freedom that God has given

us in our sexuality. We're going to talk about shame, what it is, how it plays out in our

lives and in our marriages. But before we head to the coffee shop, I want to remind you to please

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Thanks so much for supporting us in this way. So my guest today is no stranger to Java with Julie.

Her name is Dr. Debbie Grubenick. She's someone who's an expert in trauma and how we heal from

traumatic experiences. Debbie has devoted her professional life to helping traumatized children and their

parents. She's spent decades working within the foster care system, meeting with parents in her

private practice, and teaching trauma-informed care.

In our conversation today, Debbie and I are going to talk about some common responses to shame,

how you can help a loved one who's battled with shame,

and Debbie's going to help me answer emails that you sent us,

specifically about how shame is impacting your marriage.

Now, here's my conversation with Dr. Debbie

Grubinick. Debbie, thanks so much for joining me again on Java with Julie. Every time we have a

conversation, I learn something. And so I feel like I selfishly do these interviews just so I can keep learning and then everybody else gets to listen.

And one topic that I feel like we've talked around but never directly addressed is the idea of shame.

And I think within the last 10 years or so, shame has become more something that we're aware of in our society through

Bray Brown and others who have done research on this and been speaking on it.

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