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and the cool we get by the bed. They went quiet. Welcome to the You Are Not So Smart Podcast, episode 281. Oh, When we first started seeing results flow in my first thought was oh no you know and actually it's a good sign as an academic researcher when you get

the data back and you think oh no because then you wait a few beats and I remember that first

day key on and I are on the phone looking and stuff and I go, oh yes.

My name is David McCraney, this is the You Are Not So Smart Podcast and that was the voice of Jeremy Utley, a professor at Stanford University specializing in creativity and entrepreneurship. You may remember him from a previous episode of

this podcast where we discussed his book Idea Flow and since we recorded that

episode I have visited him at Stanford to see the inner workings of the D school, where he teaches,

also known as the Haso Plaitner Institute of Design, except no one calls it that. They call it the D school. And Jeremy Utley co-founded a very popular program there called Stanford's Masters of Creativity. They literally take students from all walks of life and put them

through programs and activities designed to unlock their creative potentials.

It's pretty amazing and I visited as research for my next book which is

going to explore just what the word genius really means and why that's such a hard

question to answer.

Scientifically, linguistically, culturally, historically, all the big,

A-L-Y words, it's going to be a weird book, I think you're going to love it. But yeah, the D school. The D school is one of a

handful of places around the world devoted to systematically, methodologically, unlocking people's genius while also teaching them not only how to

generate lots of ideas but how to sort the good ones from the bad ones using the latest tools available, which now includes AI,

chat gPT, which is the subject of this episode, and the reason you just heard Jeremy say.

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