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The Hello, this is Robbie Martin of Media Roots Radio.

And today we're doing a special broadcast.

There's a ton of shit going on right now.

There's a coup in Turkey happening as I'm recording this.

There's a bunch of other crazy shit happening.

Trump just picked his VP.

But something that I think is possibly more notable than either of those

is the release of the 28 redacted pages from the 9-11 joint congressional inquiry.

And I have a special guest joining me today to discuss these, who I would consider

arguably the world's leading expert in this subject, John Gold. So welcome, John.

Thank you, Robbie, for that nice introduction. Yeah, it's interesting times right now.

I mean, the coup in Turkey, the terrorist attack yesterday.

Oh my God, I forgot about that, man.

That's, yeah.

You know, it's just horrible.

And this is the world that we created, you know, through our action since the time of 9-11. Our response to 9-11

has essentially created this world. Yeah. And it's something I tried to, you know, kind of show

in a very heavy agenda, you know, just how much we, you know, this, all this stuff we've been building towards

these kinds of things. I mean, when we first got into this, the idea of Islamic terrorism

or terrorism being a, being real, or actually like a real danger was very low, you know,

was, it seemed almost cartoonishly exaggerated, but we're actually in this era now where, you know, it seemed almost cartoonishly exaggerated. We're actually in this era now where, you know, terrorist attacks are really happening

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