I would like to welcome you to episode 28 of the Symbolic World podcast.

On this episode, I will be playing for you a Q&A that I did with Jordan Peterson

at the Seattle Conference, of which I posted last week my talk sacred space in secular terms.

Jordan and I go into different subjects.

We kind of bounce off each other, and there are a few other panelists there as well, and so enjoy.

This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

So we're going to begin our discussion today with a question that is for each one of you.

And that question is, for each one of you.

And that question is, what three resources would you recommend to high school or university students who would like to pursue a career in your field?

So I'm just going to speak about this practically, and I'll speak about becoming a clinical psychologist,

and that's associated in some ways with becoming a professor, so that'll do the trick.

So you have to take a bachelor's degree, likely in a science-oriented field.

I would recommend, especially if you're going to university now, to stick fairly close to the disciplines that have at least one foot in science.

That would include psychology, generally, although there are more scientific subdomains of psychology and less scientific subdomains.

If the people that you are being educated by have to know something about the brain or about biology,

it tends to discipline them quite nicely.

And so that keeps them from falling too far astray into the more cult-like elements of the modern university.

You have to do exceptionally well in your last two years of your undergraduate degree to have a chance to become a clinical psychologist. You need a

average with really without exception and you have to do extremely well on your graduate record exam, which is a kind of a general purpose entrance exam.

So it's very competitive and then so that's the practical issue. And then there's

another practical thing to consider, which is that if you want to become a clinical psychologist,

you don't get to pick the school you're going to go to unless you are unbelievably well qualified

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