Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of How Leaders Lead with David Novak.

Today's guest is Eric Cutcher. He's a senior partner and chair of North America at McKenzie and

company, which, as most of you know, is one of the largest consulting firms in the world.

Eric's a renowned expert in AI, and he talks a lot about how this is the most transformative

moment our generation will get to lead through.

He spent over 28 years coaching the world's top companies through massive change.

And in today's episode, you'll get his coaching and expertise around how you should be utilizing AI,

not just for productivity, but for new revenue generation and growth.

Enjoy this conversation between David and Eric, and I will see you at the deep.

Now, I understand that you've broken quite a few bones over the years.

What's the total up to this point?

I don't even know, I think I stopped counting a long time ago.

So I was in nine short arm casts.

I broke my nose six times, collarbone twice,

fingers didn't count, two thumb surgeries, one knee surgery.

I don't even, I think that's as much as I can remember.

But I am quite, quite convinced that if I grew up today and had a file like I did,

the Department of Family Services would sure come knocking on our door.

And every one of those was playing a different sport or doing something stupid as a kid.

Which bone has the, which broken bone has the best story behind it? Which one has the best? So here's, here's one that kind of more speaks to me and who I am and a little bit of my irreverence. But I was a pretty decent baseball player back in the day. There was a man on third base. It was a summer, it was a summer league, a man on third

base. And for those that know, if the ball is hit to the left side of the infield, the runner is not supposed to go. And the runner went on contact. And it was a close game, kind of middle to late part of the game. And the third baseman froze and like pumped three times. And by the time he got me the ball, I caught it. And as I went to put my throwing hand in, my non-gloved hand in to hold the ball so I could take the hit, the kid's cleat got in my glove and broke my thumb in 17 spots. And I was really pissed because I dropped the ball and the runner was safe. And so I went to pick up the ball and I called timeout and walked it back out to the pitcher's mound. And my thumb was just absolutely in agony. And so I went back behind home plate and coach said, can you play? I said, I don't know if I can play, but we're going to try. And sure enough, I went to, I caught the first pitch, went to throw it, and the ball came right out of my hand. And he goes, all right, you're pulling you out. I sat in the dugout. We had a double header.

And I just started yanking on my thumb

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