We're now learning from you about a facet of tech Zinski, the Unibomber,

men who terrorized this nation for 17 years from bombs, killing people and

maiming people. Just intuitive terror that I felt, just where the hair on the back

of your neck stands up and you know that something isn't right.

Hello and welcome to the best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente Retired at the

I profiled former New York City prosecutor and writer producer of C. Vess's

Criminal Minds and Francie is unfortunately not here today. Yes, I know you'll

have to dry your eyes and that but yeah, Francie is man, she's off doing a very

exciting, very important, very cool project and you'll hear about it soon but we

can't really disclose what it is at this point but we do have an extremely

special guest and a friend of mine. Hello, I'm Jamie Gearing author of Madman in

the Woods Life Next Door to the Unibomber. How you doing Jamie? It's good to see you again.

Great and really great to see you as well. It's been a while. Yeah, well you and I met

a while back. We were doing a project for Audible about some guy named the

Unibomber. I don't know. Some guy named Ted. Yeah, some guy named Ted and you know we

connected and we interviewed you for the project which was called Where the

Devil Belongs and it's unawaudible and it's a great series and it goes really

in depth with interviews of the people who knew Kaczynski like yourself and

the people who were victimized by him which they were all extraordinary people

and also the investigators who investigated and eventually locked him up. So it's

so great to have you here to talk about your new book. So tell me when you

decided to write a book about your infamous Next Door neighbor. So since Ted

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