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LET IT OUT

273 | You Don't Have to Look Sick to be in Pain: Eating Disorder Recovery, Lying, Social Media, Addiction, and Support with The Chain Founders Christina Grasso & Ruth Friendlander

LET IT OUT

Katie Dalebout

Fashion & Beauty, Mental Health, Love, Arts, Self-help, Wellness, Katie Dalebout, Health & Fitness, Well Being, True Crime, Self-care, Society & Culture, Personal Growth, Health

4.9826 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2019

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

It's fitting to air this episode during [New York Fashion Week](https://nyfw.com/). From what I've heard, for those in the industry it's a week with no-sleep, harsh style comparisons, high stress, and a triggering one for those recovering from disordered eating. This week's conversation os with the founders of [The Chain](https://www.the-chain.us/), a peer network for women in fashion and entertainment is fitting. Co-founded by writers [Ruthie Friendlander](https://twitter.com/ruthiefrieds?lang=en) and [Christina Grasso](https://twitter.com/the_pouf?lang=en), the group is particularly active during NYFW, supporting and connecting their community. The Chain's message is useful to anyone regardless of industry who has struggled with body image and disordered eating. I met the founders at one of their events this spring and loved their vulnerability in how they discussed their recovery ups and downs. I've learned a lot from them, like how disordered eaters tend to be good liars and that self honesty and support are key to true recovery. We recorded this in Ruthie's apartment this summer and covered their experience with disordered eating, what helped them, as well as what they've created with The Chain. My friend writer [Rose Truesdale](http://www.rosetruesdale.com/) appears in the intro where we talk about travel and disordered eating a bit too, enjoy this episode.

Transcript

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0:00.0

We have this thing in our culture and our lives where like if you don't look sick,

0:05.0

if people aren't worried about you, if nobody else is commenting on what you're eating,

0:09.0

then you're not sick enough.

0:11.0

Oh, let it out.

0:23.6

Hi, welcome back.

0:39.3

You're listening to Let It Out with me, your host, Katie Delbow.

0:43.8

And for this intro, I have a co-host.

0:46.1

Yay!

0:47.0

We're recording live from Berlin.

0:50.2

I've been with my co-host Rose Truesdale nonstop for a good over two weeks now.

0:57.0

Yeah.

0:57.9

We've left each other's side for just a few minutes here and there and I'm leaving you tomorrow and I'm really sad.

1:06.5

I know me too.

1:07.7

I couldn't even leave you just to do this intro so thank you for doing it with me.

1:10.6

I'm so happy to do this with you. You're the best and I love you. And I love all of you for listening.

1:16.1

Thank you for tuning in this week. So I'm going to tell Rose and all of you about this week's

1:21.8

episode, which is with the founders of this organization called The Chain, Ruthie and Christina, and I recorded this back in

1:29.9

New York a couple weeks before I left for my mega trip. And it's a really cool organization.

1:35.2

I think you'll particularly like Rose and all of you guys listening. It's a nonprofit that is

1:42.7

a peer support network for women in fashion and entertainment

1:46.4

struggling with eating disorders by Ruthie and Christina, the founders. But really, it's

1:51.8

for anyone. I think support is so crucial in recovery from anything and in life in general.

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