I feel like the place for your more eccentric impulses should be the thing you're putting out there.

I'm...

...woolet out. Let it out.

Hi, welcome back. You're listening to Let It Out with me, Katie Dillbout. This week's episode is with

songwriter, whistler, musician that I've loved forever, Andrew Bird, and it was recorded live at

the Emerge Music Festival in the Little Space Lounge. It's part of that series of interviews that I've been putting out over these last

couple months.

And I was really excited to have him on the podcast.

I slightly regret that I didn't ask him to whistle with me,

but we did get to talk about creativity, songwriting,

being gentler with yourself, slow growth, how we met his wife,

parenting, self-discipline,

the intersection of art and activism, his relationship to social media and his phone.

It's a really good episode. I just listened back to it and I liked it a lot.

So I'll get to that because I'm recording this in Paris and there's some loud music playing outside

my window that I don't know if you can hear or not. So enjoy this episode and I'll talk to you at the end for

likes and learns and the emoji. Today's episode is brought to in part by BetterHelp, which is a company that I love so much.

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