Hi, I'm Sarah and I'm Helen and this is a squiggly careers podcast where every week we talk about a different topic to do with work and share some ideas for action that we hope will help you as well as us to navigate your squiggly career with that bit more confidence, clarity and control.

And if you ever want a bit more support than the episode that

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And it's such a lovely community where people share ideas and insights.

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So Helen, do you want to introduce today's topic?

Can you hear the skepticism, everybody?

Not a lot more, I think more nervousness.

You are nervous about this. It's just a topic.

I know.

To help people with their career potentially.

But is it?

Or is it?

Today, everybody, with that buildup,

we're talking about how to get practical

about manifesting your career.

I was saying,

waiting with Sarah to have some kind of cynical.

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