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spread the pro-democracy gospel. Thanks, everybody, and on with the show. Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reid Galen. Today, I'm joined by John

Morgan. John has covered American politics and culture for two decades, as a city desk reporter

in Washington, D.C., as a White House correspondent,

and as a national affairs correspondent covering two presidential campaigns. Today, he's an author

and senior political correspondent for Yahoo News. He's also the host of The Long Game

podcast and publisher of the Substaggneousletter, Order Stalkers. His latest book, which came out earlier this year,

is Testimony, Inside the Evangelical Movement that Failed a Generation. And it's available where

fine books are sold. John, welcome. Hey, Reed. Thanks for having me. It's great to see you and talk

with you. No, it's good to see you, too. It's been far too long. So let's

talk about the book. So it's called testimony inside the evangelical movement that failed a

generation. And one thing I found, John, is that I don't want to say that you and I were on

parallel tracks growing up, but you grew up in suburban Maryland. I grew up in suburban Virginia.

You grew up within the evangelical movement. I grew up, I guess, until I was 12, anyway, within the reformed Judaism

community. But talk to us a little bit about, you know, your childhood and coming up at that time

in that place, in a place like Washington, D.C., and begin to take us a little bit on the

journey that I think you're still on, but you really start to get into in your book.

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