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This is upgrade 271. Today's show is brought to you by Squarespace, Express VPN and ID Tech. My name is Mike Hurley. I'm joined by Jason Snow. Hello, Jason Snow.

Hello, Mike Hurley.

Huge show today, Jason Snow.

We usually start off our episodes of hashtag Snell Talk.

I'm just going to ask you a question today.

Where are you?

Mike, I am in New York City.

And Jason Snell, why are you in New York City today?

Well, when I heard that you were going to be traveling over the weekend

and we weren't going to be able to do upgrade until you got back, I just didn't know what to do.

So, I was very sad and I decided I would take

a trip to New York in order to find out about the brand new 16 inch Backbook Pro.

There it is. Oh, it happened. We very shortly have an interview. We got to you got to sit down with somebody at Apple today, right? I, yes I did. I talked to Shruthi Holdaya, who is a product manager for the

Macbook Pro. Yeah, and we talked a lot about the Mac Pro 16 inch and pro users in general and the pro workflows team and great conversation with her and in the exact same place that I had that conversation with Colleen Noviele not too long ago and so we'll have that

Soon on this episode but I think before we jump into that conversation it's probably worth contextualizing in case there are people

that don't know because it was funny like last time I'm assuming there'll be some

up gradients out there that the first time they ever hear about this news was when they press play on the episode that happened with the I Mac when we spoke about that with that episode of Colleen that you mentioned. So what are the headlines of this brand new Macbook Pro?

Apple, kind of went through a list of us, so I got the briefing on Tuesday and we're

releasing this on at the embargo time on Wednesday and they came through

like with a list of their priorities which I thought was interesting to see

them contextualize it like that so display is number one like this is a 16 inch

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