Welcome to the How of Business with Henry Lopez and David Begin, the podcast that helps you start, run, and grow your small business. And now here are your hosts.

Welcome to this episode of the How of Business. I'm joined today by my friend and one of my coaches and mentors, Joan Sockin. Joan, welcome back to the show.

Hi, great to be here. I'm excited to have you. I'm excited to talk about this. You guys, you help me with this topic so often,

which we're going to chat about how do we get to a point where we have a stress-free business

and maybe in life as well, but certainly

associated with business as a small business owner myself, as Joan is and has been,

there are all of these stresses. And I think we've almost come to a point these days where we feel

like that's just the way it has to be, but it's not quite so. And so Joan has some very

great insights and experience, and she's done

a lot of research and worked with a lot of her clients to help us with how we can minimize

that stress. So that's the topic of this. It's all about eliminating that overwhelm then that

comes from stress. I recently did an episode on the topic of

overwhelm. And stress, it's not that the way I look at it and we'll get into it in a conversation,

it's not the stress is necessarily all together. A bad thing is how you let it affect you in life.

That's what we have to be very careful with. If you want to receive more information about the

HALA business, including links to the show notes page for this episode, as well as an exciting, we have an exciting announcement about a webinar that Joan and I are doing.

I'm going to give you more information about that here in a moment, but there's a free webinar we're doing on this topic of stress-free business.

To get all of that, the easiest way to do that, you can go to the website at the howab business.com or just text the word biz, B-I-Z, to 31996, and I'll send you a link,

a text reply rather with the link, with the information on where to find the show notes for this

episode, and how to register for this webinar that we've got coming. So for those of you who don't know Joan, she's been on the show a couple of different times. And so I act like everybody knows her because I know her so well. But let me tell you a little about her. And then we'll get into the conversation. So again, she's been twice on my show. I've had the privilege of being on her podcast, but she's an expert on this topic of managing stress and other mindset issues that we all deal with.

But in particular, she knows how to apply it to business owners, and in particular to successful people who are dealing with these kinds of challenges.

She's an entrepreneur,

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