So I didn't know this until this morning I woke up and read an article that June is Men's Mental Health Awareness Month.

Did you know that?

I did not until you told me.

So the Deseret News just did a story on this.

Tic-Toc brings awareness to Men's Mental Health Awareness Month.

And the minute I saw that headline, I thought, well, that's really cool

because there's definitely a huge need for talking about men's mental health.

And so maybe we just start out with that with like the stigma and why, to me that stood out

as like a something that is so needed in this world today.

What's your perspective on that? Well that's okay. Yeah initially that's kind of my

thought is like men's

specifically, but men's mental health month, right? Right, yeah.

But men's mental health, obviously there's enough of a need to focus on that

due to statistics,

due to whatever data we have that would suggest

that this is a major issue with men

and we need to like raise awareness to it by means of having an entire month

just solely devoted to men's mental health awareness. So it makes sense to me I think

just coming from the standpoint of being in a family with six boys. Yeah. And you just, and I've heard this so many times that I know that my experience isn't unique.

Like a lot of people that I've been around or just gone and been in, I've been in a lot of

men's groups talk about is kind of some of the concepts or ideas that

socially men hold or society holds about men, which is kind of strong, silent, don't talk about feelings,

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