Welcome to the My Buddy Green podcast. I'm Jason Walkib, founder and co-ceeo of My Buddy Green, and your host.

Stephen Cutler is a New York Times best-selling author, an award-winning journalist and the Executive Director of

the Flow Research Collective. He's one of the world's leading experts on human

performance and his latest must-read book is The Art of Impossible.

And today we're gonna discuss all things productivity,

performance, and flow.

Stephen, welcome.

Hey Jason, it's good to be with you.

So I love the book, The Art of Impossible, big topic, big book, and we should rewind and start with your journey and the work you do at

the Flow Research Collective so can you explain to everyone what exactly it is you do?

Yeah, I'm the executive director of the Flow Research Collective. We are a study the

neurobiology of peak human performance. So what goes on in the brain and the body when we are

performing at our absolute best. And we're a research and training organization. On the

research side we have partnerships with folks at USC and Stanford Imperial College London

a couple of the places and we study this stuff and then on the training side we take what we've learned on the science side and use it to work with everybody

from kind of US Special Forces through a lot of Fortune 100 CEOs and whatnot to the

general public we train about a thousand people a month, which gives us both like the front-end research and this enormous data set of did this shit work in the real world.

So how do you define flow?

I think so many of us are familiar with the concept.

There's the famous book, Mahali, I can never pronounce his last name.

How do you pronounce his last name?

Okay, so I'll give you the fanatic and you're going to laugh when you actually get it.

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