Do you think it is plausible if we ever have another deep mind that it could become a global leader while remaining essentially a British business?

The narrative being that we're nowhere in AI.

The narrative is we're nowhere in AI. We don't have particular strengths that we are only focused on sort of catching up and adoption rather than being in the frontier.

We can do both of those things and we can do them really better than pretty much most people in the world.

Kids are using AI and they're using it in a way where they're finding increasingly it's hard to tell between fact and fiction.

Is there blue sky thinking going on in government about that scenario?

Hello and welcome.

Now, as you know, Steph and I have spent an enormous amount of time on this podcast querying whether this government is preparing the UK properly for this AI economic, industrial, social revolution. And we have been,

let's be clear, doubtful that the government gets it. Now, believe it or not, there is a minister

for artificial intelligence. His name is Konishka Narayan. And I'm delighted to say that Konishka is joining us today.

He's here because he wants to tell the world about this 500 million pound investment fund that the

government is creating, a fund for investing in AI, but it won't surprise

you that I want to talk to him about a whole raft of other questions, such as, is the government

changing the education curriculum appropriately for an AI world. Are they thinking about how they'll

raise tax revenues when there are no humans in jobs? How will we pay for schools? How will we pay

for welfare? So a ton of stuff to talk to Kanishka, Narayan, about the Minister for AI. Here's our interview.

Kanishka, very good to see you. Now, I've got open on my phone, sovereignaai.gov.uk,

which appears to be an advert for all the great British people who made all the breakthroughs that led us to this moment.

So, for years underrated Ada Lovelace, Alan Turing, the great genius without whom we wouldn't have.

Today's AI world. We've got, obviously, Tim Berners-Lee.

We've, we nod at Dennis Asabis, an alpha fold, which is his incredible

breakthrough where, you know, he's able to sequence all proteins as a result of, you know,

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