269. Monzo founder: AI will kill income tax

The Rest Is Money

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Politics, Business, News

3.6 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Why are governments failing to notice how AI is replacing many jobs now? If AI replaces all or most jobs, how can governments replace all the lost taxes? Who will pay for public services and stop us from starving? Robert sits down with Monzo founder Tom Blomfield to hear his revolutionary plan to reform the tax system for an AI world. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠the⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Advertise with us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Partnerships@goalhanger.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Humans are not economically useful anymore.
0:03.5	I think income tax will go away pretty soon.
0:06.4	No.
0:06.9	Being a senior lawyer or a senior doctor will seem like a joke.
0:10.6	We starred in 2015 and by 2019 we'd grown from a team of 10 to a team of 2000.
0:16.1	This is Monzo we're talking about now.
0:17.4	This is Monzo.
0:18.1	We were losing about 100 million a year under attack from the press.
0:21.9	We were at Starling. You fell this is Monzo. We were losing about 100 million a year, under attack from the press. We're at Starling.
0:25.0	You fell out with your partner, Anne Bowden.
0:28.0	There were 14 people at Starling, and 13 of us started Monzo.
0:29.6	And you haven't spoken to her since? Hello, and welcome to The Rest Is Money with me, Robert Peston.
0:44.3	No Steph today, which presumably means she's out fighting crime again.
0:49.2	Today, I will be talking to Tom Blomfield.
0:52.9	He is one of the most successful entrepreneurs that Britain
0:56.0	has produced over the last 20 odd years as a founder and creator of Monzo. He now is a partner at
1:04.6	Y Combinator, which is one of Silicon Valley's most successful incubators of tech businesses. The beginning of our
1:13.4	conversation is going to focus on this AI industrial revolution we are living through because his
1:20.6	views in terms of how all of us have to adapt, but in particular governments have now got to massively think
1:28.4	about how they fund the welfare state and how they provide decent incomes to people as we
1:34.7	go through this massive jobs upheaval. What he has to say is very challenging. So here is
1:39.4	my interview with Tom Blomfield. Tom, I want to start actually with where we are in terms of how AI is changing, working
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