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This episode is sponsored by, well, you, if you're a Patreon backer, you can back this

show episode to episode at patreon.com slash creative pep talk.

It's P-A-T-R-E-O-N dot com slash creative pep talk.

If you don't know, Patreon is a way that you can give ongoing support for creators.

You can give anywhere from a dollar to eight million dollars per episode.

That's not even the cap.

If you, not that it's going to do that.

Think of it like Kickstarter that just keeps kickstarting, man.

But we're doing a special push for Patreon for a bunch of reasons.

This is something I've wanted to do.

I wanted to be, I wanted to equal out and be more listener supported because I think it

gives us the ability to do all kinds of things that we're not doing right now.

And then this whole push for Patreon was actually brought forward because as everything

went down with Corona, a lot of our sponsors have put things on pause.

And those sponsors enable us to show up every single week and make this, this podcast

as good as we can possibly make it.

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