You are listening to the Overcome Pornography for Good Podcast, episode 27, shame apathy trap.

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I'm your host, Sarah Brewer. Hey, everyone, welcome to the podcast episode this week. If you can hear my

little guy singing and yelling in the background, They are just leaving for daycare, so they

won't be in the background of this whole episode, but you might hear him here for a second.

He's quieted down now, so I don't know if you can even hear him. He's pretty cute. He is three,

and we're potty training right now. Actually, we tried to start potty training like three

months ago, and obviously it just has not gone that well. So we're trying again. This is like

round three. I'm sure we're doing it all wrong. I'm sure there's a way better way to do it.

But hey, we're first-time parents and doing the best we can.

He is not that excited about going potty on the toilet.

And I'm trying everything.

I'm out of ideas with how to encourage him.

I'm telling him, hey, we're going to go to

preschool in the fall and we have to learn how to go potty so we can go to preschool. We can't go

to preschool and then as we go potty, which is true. They won't let them come unless they're

potty trained. And I'm telling him, we can go buy new toys. We can just go potty on the toilet. We're going to, you can play games on your iPad. I have a little iPad for him that we use

for road trips. And he doesn't really ever use it except for road trips. And I thought that would

encourage him. And it's just, it's just not. So, you know, we'll see. We'll see how that goes. I'll give you an update. It's kind of funny when

you get to be a parent and the most exciting thing you have to talk about is potty training.

Like the big exciting things in my life are my kids and body training and my business and

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