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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

27. No Room for a Sinking Feeling with Hilda Heine

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

Persephonica

Society, Policy, Finance, News, Current Affairs, Society & Culture, Green, Environment, Energy, Business, Planet, Science, Climate

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2019

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In our new format, this week Tom, Christiana, and Paul bring in what they're optimistic for or outraged by to kick things off. Later on, we talk with President Hilda Heine of The Marshall Islands. We hear how she had never aspired to be President, how optimism in the face of existential adversity is the only way, and why believing the best in humanity is still possible.

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to outrage and optimism. My name's Tom Rivit Karnak.

0:16.2

I'm Christina Pierras and I'm Paul Dickinson. This week we discuss some of the latest news that we are outraged by and optimistic about, and we speak

0:24.7

to President Hilde Heine of the Marshall Islands.

0:27.8

Thanks for being here.

0:31.3

So this week we're going to speak a little later on to President Hilde Heine from

0:37.5

the Marshall Islands one of the world's most vulnerable countries in relation to

0:40.7

climate change. But just before we do we're going to dive into some of the

0:44.1

most recent news that's been coming up, some of the things that have been getting us

0:47.0

outrage or optimistic around our response to climate change. Christina, where are you

0:51.6

this week? What are you feeling?

0:53.0

Well, I've been rather obsessed about the Adani coal mine in Australia for a while.

0:58.0

That huge coal mine, right?

1:01.0

It's the, it's the, it's the, it would be if it actually opens it would be the first coal

1:05.8

mine opening in that part of Australia in the last 50 years. I thought it was

1:10.9

rejected. Well we thought it was rejected right but the election in Australia has

1:18.6

actually tipped that and I'm both outraged and optimistic about that.

1:25.0

I'm outraged because the new government has now given permission,

1:30.0

all the environmental permissions for that mind to go forward.

1:35.0

Despite the fact that that whole area of Australia has been in a drought for three years

1:40.0

and they're very concerned about where the water is going to come from for the

1:45.9

extraction of the coal. What I'm actually optimistic about is the news that I just

1:50.9

read I think yesterday that there are engineering firms in

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