27 | Janna Levin on Black Holes, Chaos, and the Narrative of Science
Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
Sean Carroll
4.7 • 4.7K Ratings
🗓️ 17 December 2018
⏱️ 69 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to the Minescape Podcast. I'm your host, Sean Carroll. |
| 0:04.6 | And today's episode I have a conversation with an old friend of mine who |
| 0:08.1 | happens to also be an enormously respected scientist and writer, Jan 11. |
| 0:12.8 | Like me, Jan |
| 0:14.0 | maintains both an active research program. She's a professor of physics at |
| 0:18.2 | Columbia University in Bernard College where she thinks about black holes and |
| 0:21.8 | cosmology and astrophysics in various ways, but also a broader effort to |
| 0:26.8 | interact with other disciplines and with the general public. But we choose |
| 0:30.4 | slightly different ways of going about that broader impact kind of sector of our |
| 0:35.2 | efforts. In particular, what Jan has done is mastered a way of writing about |
| 0:40.0 | science that is fundamentally narrative in focus and tone. Her books that |
| 0:45.9 | explain science to a broader public really read like novels. And in fact, one of |
| 0:50.1 | them is basically a novel. She mixes the human side of science with the actual |
| 0:55.2 | research being done better than anyone else that I know. So we'll talk a little |
| 0:58.8 | bit about her research because that's always you know where things come from in |
| 1:02.0 | some sense. But mostly about the book she's written and why she chooses to write |
| 1:06.0 | about science in this way. Her most recent book, which I recommend that you read, |
| 1:10.1 | is called Black Hole Blues and it's about the discovery of gravitational waves, |
| 1:14.1 | the building of the LIGO observatory and all the effort that went into that |
| 1:18.4 | over the years. So this conversation serves as an interesting companion piece to |
| 1:23.1 | my conversation with Kip Thorn from just a couple of episodes ago. As Kip was |
| 1:27.5 | there, he was one of the people who was interviewed by Jan for his efforts in |
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