Welcome back to the place we find ourselves podcast. I'm Adam Young and in today's episode

I have a conversation with KJ Ramsey

We talk about how KJ's suffering has forced her to rely on other people for help

There are times when our suffering puts us on the floor either literally or

metaphorically and in today's episode KJ talks about the rather remarkable surprises

That often take place when someone joins us on the floor. Thanks for listening

I hope you find today's conversation meaningful

I am here with KJ Ramsey KJ. It is good to see you

Good to see you

Let's tell our listeners a little bit about who you are and what you spend your time doing

I would say who I am is a little bit of an oddball and

a recovering idealist and what I spend my time doing is I am a writer and a therapist and

I try to make

Sense of the pain in our world and find beauty and joy in it

So you have written two articles that I want to talk with you about and the more recent article that you wrote is

The education I never signed up for

What was that education?

So I think distinctly the education I never signed up for was

It sounds a little bit cheesy, but the school of suffering I would never have signed up for the way that my life has turned out

I really wouldn't have

Disease was not my choice and it is no one's choice

but it

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