269: ‘Maximally Thin’ With Casey Johnston

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.6 • 3.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2019

⏱️ 110 minutes

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Summary

Very special guest Casey Johnston joins the show to talk about the butterfly MacBook keyboard saga and the just-released 16-inch MacBook Pro, with its all new scissor-switch keyboard design.

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0:00.0	Hey everybody, it's your internet pal John Gruber.
0:02.8	I've got some good news and some bad news.
0:04.8	The good news first.
0:05.8	I have an amazing guest, Casey Johnston, who has done more writing and great writing about
0:11.4	the saga of the butterfly switch MacBook keyboards than anybody else on the internet.
0:16.4	And we're here to talk all about the new 16 inch MacBook Pro and it's all new keyboard
0:20.8	design.
0:21.8	So that's the good news.
0:22.8	The bad news is that I recorded the whole show using my review unit 16 inch MacBook Pro
0:28.4	and to connect it to my regular microphone.
0:30.8	I had to use a USB-C to USB-A dongle and I think something went wrong there and my side
0:36.6	of the audio has a bit of static and we're doing our best to mitigate it in post but you're
0:43.2	going to hear it I think and I'm just telling you upfront that you don't have to let me
0:47.9	know.
0:48.9	I'm really sorry about it.
0:49.9	Nobody feels worse about this than me.
0:51.5	I really do but you don't have to let me know.
0:55.2	And here's the weird part.
0:56.2	I can't explain it.
0:57.2	I'm recording this preamble where I don't have the static using the exact same microphone
1:01.9	setup that had the static when I recorded with Casey.
1:05.8	I can't explain it.
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