To me, like the degree, the training was like a means to an end. Let's get through this. Let's get through this. I want to get this doctorate. That's when I can help people. That's where my life can start. And I didn't necessarily enjoy the training so much because I was thinking, like, I have so much stuff to do.

Time is ticking and that, I don't know, it was a massive drive to like get it done, get it done, get it done versus maybe a balanced approach I would do today, at least I'd like the

thing I would, where I would, yes, I'd have a purpose to like an end goal, but how can you

appreciate this moment where it maybe seemed mundane or arduous to studying and doing all the

training? Like I loathe many parts of it because it just seemed like a waste of time to get to my

end goal, which is to help people once I quote unquote arrived. But, you know,

it served me well. I can't go back and change it because I graduated and I started the first

functional medicine telehealth clinic in the world. I didn't call it that back then. I called it

a virtual functional medicine clinic because that was my plan. That was my plan is to get through

school, get my doctorate and go and help people around the world so it was just like nose to the ground

in my lane relentlessly pursuing this goal today's guest today's guest is Dr. Will Cole.

Dr. Cole is a leading functional medicine practitioner, a New York Times bestselling author,

and a pioneer in the telehealth medicine space.

He grew up in rural Pennsylvania, and he developed an early passion for nutrition and wellness

that set him apart from his

Rust Belt community. And this early foundation led him to become one of functional medicine's

most innovative voices launching the world's first functional medicine telehealth clinic 15 years ago.

He has authored four influential books exploring the deep connections between diet, gut health, and emotional well-being.

And in our conversation, we explore his perspective on America's food system, the intersection of wellness and policy,

and how finding presence in our daily lives might be the hidden key to making better health choices.

We also talked about his involvement in the recent efforts to remove harmful food dyes

from popular cereals such as fruit loops, as well as his vision for a more integrated approach

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