Bondeer, today, on our World Cup tour, we arrived Dominic at one of the great giants

of the World Cup, don't we? Brazil.

The greatest giants, I think, be board satan.

The giant has giant.

Yeah, absolutely.

But Brazil is also, of course, a country that featured in a four-part special

we did a few months back on the history of Portugal.

Brazil, of course, was colonized by Portugal.

And at one point, during the peninsula war, the entire Portuguese royal family got

ferried across from Portugal by the British Navy to Brazil to escape the

onslaught of Napoleon's French and established an empire there.

It became the capital of the entire Portuguese empire, and Portugal itself became a kind

of cloning or backwater, I mean, extraordinary development.

And you promised us then, because we were focusing on Portugal, and once Brazil became independent,

we rather left Brazil behind.

But you promised us that we would do the history of the Brazilian empire.

And that, unless I'm much mistaken, is what you have in store for us today.

That's right, Tom.

You kind of spin off, isn't it, from our Portuguese epic?

It is, really.

Yes.

I mean, Brazilian listeners will be horrified to hear they're a spin off.

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