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The Rest Is History

267: Wales: The Roar of the Red Dragon

The Rest Is History

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4.618.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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What are the origins of Wales? And how do the Welsh define themselves against Englishness? As England play Wales in the World Cup today, Tom and Dominic are joined by Martin Johnes, Professor of History at the University of Swansea, to explore the age old rivalry between the two nations. Join The Rest Is History Club (www.restishistorypod.com) for ad-free listening to the full archive, weekly bonus episodes, live streamed shows and access to an exclusive chatroom community. *The Rest Is History Live Tour 2023*: Tom and Dominic are back on tour this autumn! See them live in London, New Zealand, and Australia! Buy your tickets here: restishistorypod.com Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to the Restless History on the Day that England are playing Wales.

0:16.0

And I think it's time for a sing-song.

0:30.3

My love, my God, will make you hear my voice,

0:39.5

This is my love.

0:42.2

And I thank you for your oxygenated voice.

0:45.6

I am your love, my love, my soul.

0:49.5

I'm glad to have you together.

0:52.9

There is no other way.

0:55.8

That was the opening verse of Amara Head by David Iffan. It's become very much the kind of

1:05.3

the great theme for Welsh football. I'm sure to be sung on the terraces this afternoon.

1:11.1

And Dominic, I will give you, because I'm assuming that you your mastery of Welsh isn't

1:16.9

up to understanding what was being sung there, but maybe I'm wrong. Am I wrong?

1:21.4

They podcast, listeners know me, Tom, as the master of tongues.

1:24.4

The master of tongues. Well, for those who's Welsh may not enable them to translate it.

1:28.9

Let me just quickly distance myself from your Welsh pronunciation just for the...

1:33.2

Okay. Yeah, okay. Just put that absolutely on the record.

1:36.9

Please continue. That's fine. You are from Shropshire. You are entitled to say that.

1:41.3

So the meaning of the words, you don't remember Maxson. Nobody knows him. 1,600 years

1:47.7

a time too long to remember when Magnus Maximus left Wales in the year 383, leaving us a whole

1:53.7

nation and today look at us. So I think that is a magnificent sentiment. Firstly, because as far as

2:00.3

I know, it's the only football anthem that mentions the Roman Emperor. Magnus Maximus, yeah.

2:04.7

But secondly, Dominic, when he says that nobody knows him, that's not true, because

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