266: Selling and Drinking with Emily Lynn Paulson

Soberful

Veronica Valli & Chip Somers

Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement

4.8 • 611 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Emily Lynn Paulson is the founder of Sober Mom's Club. She joins Veronica to discuss her new book 'Hey Hun' and her role in predatory Multi-Level-Marketing. Emily explains how the MLM fuelled her drinking and nothing on the outside matched what was really going on.

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0:00.0	I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting
0:10.2	that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.
0:22.4	I could touch but never hold.
0:27.6	Hello, everybody.
0:28.8	Welcome to the Soberful Podcast, and I am joined today by Emily Pulsin.
0:33.5	Hi, Emily.
0:34.5	Hi, Veronica.
0:35.7	Good to be here.
0:36.6	About time. Can't believe it's taken this long to get you on the show. I know. Yeah, I followed you for ages and we've met a couple of times in person. And yeah, but I'm glad that I waited because I read your book, Hey, Hunt. And I just loved it. I want to tell you what it was interesting, is I read it
0:55.4	fairly close to. I also read Christy Coulter's book, Exit Interview. And I found it interesting,
1:01.2	there were two interesting books to read about women in business and the relationship of women
1:07.4	in business with alcohol. But tell people what Hayhan is about. Yeah, so Hey Han is about my
1:14.2	entrance, indoctrination and exit from a multi-level marketing company, which if people don't
1:20.0	know what they are, they probably do know what they are. It's those people reach out to you on
1:24.5	social media. Hey, Han, my business opportunity, join my team,
1:28.7	you know, these lavish income claims. Yeah, they're basically pyramid schemes with product.
1:35.0	So it's all about that and also about, you know, my substance use during that time.
1:39.8	Okay. So yeah, we do kind of have them in England. So it's basically you, you sell products to your friends and you want to grow that kind of base, right? You want to everyone's a potential sale, right? Everyone's like, oh, I have that. That's how it works. Like there's no storefront or anything like that. It's you and mostly women, right, selling to their friends and
2:01.8	their friends of friends and their friends and friends. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with sales.
2:05.9	Like, you know, if I make a product at home and sell it to my friends, like that's sales one-to-one
2:10.8	sales, right? And what makes multi-level marketing so shady is the multi-level part of it,
2:17.2	is that the majority of money is made from collecting other people.
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