You are running the world.

We're like the Freemasons or something like now.

Mark Carney, you know, was Governor of the Bank of England. Your previous Prime Minister, the last Prime Minister was Australia. Goldman wasn't a revolving door for government. We didn't hire from government. Government hired from us. By the way, and this was sort of an entry requirement of Goldman. One of the things that you became a partner at Goldman, Goldman to make sure you pay your taxes we're going to do your tax returns for you.

There's somebody who spent sort of an entry requirement of Goldman. One of the things at Goldman, you became a partner at Goldman. To make sure you pay your taxes, we're going to do your tax returns for you.

There's somebody who spent rather too much of my early journalistic career talking to people at Goldman.

Mostly I found them, closed, pompous, basically assholes.

And so you're the exception to the rule at Goldman.

If you've got the call to serving government, what would you say?

Hello and welcome to the rest is Money with me Robert Parson.

And we, Steph McGovern.

Our guest today is a Wall Street legend.

Lloyd Blankfein is a man who grew up as a working class kid from Brooklyn.

And he ended up running the biggest investment bank in the world, Goldman Sachs.

He's written a memoir, streetwise,

getting to and through Goldman Sachs, which kind of tracks his journey and it explains how the

firm operated and navigated through the 2008 financial crisis with him at the helm. He's had a hell

of a career, so loads to talk to him about. There is, I mean, obviously we want to talk to him,

since he is somebody who is still very much in touch with Mark Gibbs, about what he makes of

the impact of Trump's Iran war, how you protect yourself, you know, I suppose if you're running

a government, but also as an investor in these incredibly difficult times.

And also, I just want to know, you know, given that he is one of those bankers,

blamed by pretty much everybody for the global financial crisis, what he feels about all that now, a few years on.

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