MacPower users episode 264, workflows with John Gruber. Welcome back to a very special episode of the Mac Power Users

Podcast. I'm Katie Floyd alongside David Sparks. Hey David!

Hey Katie Floyd, how are you today? I'm doing well and we are joined today by our special guest. Welcome to MacPower users for the first time, Mr. John Grouver. Welcome John.

Hi, thanks for having me. Well, thank you so much for joining us.

You know, you have been on our list, I think, since we originally started doing the workflow show.

I'm sorry it took us 264 episodes to get you here, but we're going to make the most of our time

together now. I remember talking to David about it at Macworld Expo. Like 2009.

I don't know if it doesn't matter which one it was I guess at this point because they were all a long time ago

But it was definitely one of the January ones not one of those weird on the way out

Super Bowl weekend ones or whatever the heck they wound up with.

But I, and I said yes and I don't say yes to things just to make people happy.

I said yes because I meant it.

I thought that sounded like fun.

And there it is 2015. But but anyway that's all right you said yes and you're here

Well you've been kind of busy you've been a blogger app, man about town, specialist in super secret drinking

locations in Philadelphia. Hanging out with Phil Schiller. Yeah.

So for those few in our audience who don't know John, John,

is I always consider kind of like the top of the crowd blogger in the Apple ecosystem.

John, you've been blogging about Apple and Apple related things

since when did you first start in early 2000s, wasn't it?

August 2002 was when during fireball started.

Yeah, I mean, you know, still when Apple was still recovering really and

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