We are just two weeks from heading out on our big trip down to Baja California and then all the way up the Pacific coast into Alaska over the course of the next several months and joining us are going to be our friends Jamie and Clay Schumacher who have we met them a little over a year ago now and they've spent probably way too much time with us and spend more time than they want and today you're going to get to meet them. This is our vmiles.

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Welcome to episode number 260 for I'm Jason and I'm Abby and this is Jamie and Clay and we are four full-time RVers who have been crisscrossing North America at various states.

For a very long time here are vmiles we talk all things RV and outdoors from travel destinations industry news are national parks and so much more we're just getting ready here to work we're getting ready to go into Mexico in a few weeks but in between them we're going on a Disney cruise all together down to Mexico terrible timing but we're we're getting prepped for that in in a few days getting ready to go you guys about ready.

Yeah, yeah, how could I know whenever we travel away from the RV it's like almost easier in a way because it's like it's just all you're doing is packing one bag you're going on a trip I think it's harder if we hook up the RV I have all my stuff so that's the thing it's what to bring and then I'm I'm notorious for overpacking I will overpack for this trip like it's it's bound to happen and so the nice thing about like going to Fort Wilderness for instance and doing Disney and Fort Wilderness.

It's that you have everything there whereas now on this Disney cruise I don't know how many swimsuits I need what if I need one for every you keep you kept trying to get me to buy another swimsuit I'm like I've never needed more than one ever.

You have it.

You want to draw like the one that's giant and the one that you're wearing.

Thank you.

She understands so this is a better and cruiser right here.

And you can never overpack for a cruise you need three outfits per day.

So yeah you guys this is your first Disney cruise.

It is.

It's our first cruise in general ever and so we have nothing to base the saucebub.

We have no idea what this is going to be like.

I think I bought every single bit of nausea anything from Amazon last week.

Like everyone's going to have bands.

I've got the patches for behind the ears.

I've got the kids drama mean the adult drama mean I've got the ginger lozenges.

Yeah I have bought everything in anticipation that at least three out of five of us are going to throw up at least one on this cruise.

Yeah.

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