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Welcome back to the Lincoln Project.

I'm your host, Reid Galen.

Today I'm joined by Philip Germain, deputy political director for us here at the Lincoln

Project.

Prior to joining the Lincoln Project and who could believe he had a life before us, he worked

with multiple political campaigns and was a legislative fellow for the House of Representatives.

He's a graduate of UCLA with a degree in international relations and affairs, and is coming to us today in studio from Washington, D.C.

Philip, welcome.

Hey, Threat, thanks for having me.

All right, so we're going to spend some time, Philip, talking about no labels.

And for our viewers and ultimately our listeners out there, no labels was started, I don't know, maybe 10 or so years ago,

as this idea that you could bring together moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats to pass bipartisan legislation. They have a group in Congress, they call the problem solvers, who are a caucus of their own that push to sort of restore comity such as it was ever in the U.S. House.

But this year, they've taken on a much bigger hurdle than trying to get 40 or so members of Congress to agree on infrastructure or whatever the case might be.

They have decided that as an insurance policy, their words not ours, that they will attempt to run a third party candidate for the presidency,

saying that the American voters are unhappy with their choices in the

idea that it might be a rematch between President Joe Biden and soon to be yet again

indicted seditionist coup attemptor Donald Trump in 2024. All of that to say that they have spent

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