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We Can Do Hard Things

262. Aubrey Gordon: On Freedom from Anti-Fatness

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Aubrey Gordon – activist, author, and teacher – talks to us about anti-fat bias and the way it manifests in employment disparities, our healthcare system, our dinner table conversations, and our parenting. She teaches us about “concern trolling” and other ways anti-fatness hides inside of our “do-gooding.” Sharing her personal experiences, Aubrey illuminates the subtle and not-so-subtle ways that our culture perpetuates anti-fatness – and examines the roots of thinness as a system of supremacy. She points us toward a world where we are all safer and freer. Plus, a heart-piercing voicemail from a concerned Pod Squader about their 11-year-old daughter's body image struggles. For more information on why BMI is horseshit, check out Ep 10 OUR BODIES: Why are we at war with them and can we ever make peace? About Aubrey: Aubrey Gordon is an author, columnist, and cohost of the Maintenance Phase podcast. She is the author of the New York Times and Indie bestseller “You Just Need to Lose Weight” and 19 Other Myths About Fat People, and What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat. Her work has been published in The New York Times, Vox, SELF, Health, Glamour and more. Aubrey is also the subject of the new documentary film YOUR FAT FRIEND, which explores her journey from anonymous blogger to bestselling author and activist. TW: @yrfatfriend IG: @yrfatfriend To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things.

0:10.0

Aubrey Gordon is here. Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things.

0:13.4

Aubrey Gordon is here.

0:16.3

We're so excited.

0:17.4

Aubrey Gordon is an author, columnist, and co-host of the Maintenance Phase

0:21.6

podcast, which Abby and I love. She is the author of the maintenance phase podcast which Abby and I love.

0:24.0

She is the author of the New York Times and Indie Best Seller.

0:27.0

You just need to lose weight and 19 other myths about fat people

0:31.0

and what we don't talk about when we talk about fat which rearranged my

0:35.1

brain on a molecular level. Her work has been published in the New York Times

0:38.8

Vox, Self Health, Glammer, and more.

0:42.8

Aubrey is also the subject of the new documentary film,

0:45.7

Your Fat Friend, which is just wonderful,

0:49.1

and explores her journey from anonymous blogger

0:52.0

to best-selling author and activist.

0:54.5

Welcome, Aubrey.

0:56.0

I'm such a big fan, it's redonculus.

0:59.0

Are you kidding me? No, I am not kidding. Okay. The 2015 World Cup is the reason that I watch soccer.

1:05.0

Like that's just like that was the like that's it.

1:08.0

Yes.

1:09.0

Yeah, so just like, hey buddy, I'm flipping out a little bit to be talking to a series of living legends in this conversation.

1:18.0

What a joy team. What a joy. And you live in my old stomping grounds. I used to live in Portland and you know,

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