261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

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🗓️ 28 November 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Author and artist, Jenny Odell, discusses how to break from the attention economy long enough to feel fully alive in a culture obsessed with productivity. She shares stories of her encounters with nature, how to be creative instead of productive, how to be less useful in order to survive, and the real reason for art and rest. This is a deep dive about how to stay human in a world that wants us to become machines. About Jenny: Jenny Odell is a multidisciplinary artist and the New York Times bestselling author of How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy and Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock. Her writing has appeared in The Atlantic, The New York Times, Sierra magazine, and other publications. She lives in Oakland, California. TW: @the_jennitaur IG: @jennitaur To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	They stopped asking directions,
0:07.0	in some places they've never been.
0:10.0	Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things. Okay, if you have ever felt like you have lost your
0:22.3	humanity a bit in the midst of a culture that is obsessed with
0:27.8	productivity. If you've ever just felt the desire to just breathe a little more to just find more delight and pleasure and just be a human being instead of a human producing,
0:49.9	then you need to listen to this episode with Jenny O'Dell.
0:53.0	Jenny O'Dell is just an incredible thinker
0:56.2	about just that, about how we can stop
1:00.2	losing our humanity in pursuit of productivity.
1:05.0	She wrote a book called How to Do Nothing, which is just...
1:08.6	It's actually the book I read right before starting this podcast.
1:11.8	And she's out with a new book now called saving time and
1:15.8	both are just about different ways to be to resist losing all of our humanity
1:22.0	and joy.
1:23.0	She talks today about finding peace and humanity in nature,
1:28.0	how to be creative instead of productive,
1:31.0	and how we can actually trick the system by becoming less useful.
1:39.0	Not more useful, less useful, so the world will leave us alone.
1:44.0	She'll change your life this Jenny O'Dell.
1:46.0	This is a mind-bending conversation.
1:48.0	I hope you enjoy.
1:50.0	Jenny O'Dell is a multidisciplinary artist in the New York Times best-selling author of how to do nothing,
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