261: Tish Harrison Warren: Your Burnout May Be An Invitation to a Meaningful Life
No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Lee Camp
4.8 • 555 Ratings
🗓️ 11 May 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Lee. See, Camp, this is no small endeavor exploring what it means to live a good life. |
| 0:09.4 | I mean, a lot of what I wanted to do in this book is just tell different kinds of stories. |
| 0:15.3 | And I wanted to normalize things being hard or things being unfulfilling, that that's okay. |
| 0:21.6 | That's Anglican priest and author Tish Harrison Warren talking about her most recent book, |
| 0:26.6 | What Grows in Weary Lands. |
| 0:29.6 | When I was younger, the notion of getting stuck somewhere was terrifying to me, but I have sort of come to see in my midlife. If you refuse to get |
| 0:40.4 | stuck, what that means is we'll never develop depth. We talk about burnout in the digital age and the |
| 0:47.0 | ancient wisdom that has helped her navigate a season of spiritual drought. Learning to walk towards |
| 0:52.8 | the difficulty of that, instead of fleeing from it, |
| 0:56.2 | those are the muscles we have to develop. All coming right up. Hello friends, Lee Seacamp here. |
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