I feel like what makes a good friend is that they really see you for who you are and they really love and accept you for all of who you are and celebrate you when you're having a really great moment and support and love you when you're having a really hard one. Let it out.

Hi, welcome.

You're listening to Let It Out with me.

I'm your host, Katie Dale about.

This is a podcast I've been hosting for a while since 2013.

And today's guest is a guest that's been on the show.

Honestly, I've lost count.

Maybe five or so times.

It's my best friend, Simi Baudits.

She's a wonderful human being.

My best friend, the coziest person in the world to me.

She is also a author.

She wrote this book last year called Letting Go of Leo, which you should definitely read if you haven't already.

I got to write the foreword, which is pretty cool.

And she's a intuitive eating coach and writer and just really creative person. You can listen to her whole situation,

her whole story. She used to be an attorney and now she does the work she's doing now in multiple episodes back. But today we're talking about something specific. We're talking about

friendship, not just our friendship, but friendship in general and loneliness and relationships and the 90s. We talk about the importance

of shared vulnerability in friendships, the importance of female friendships, friends

feelings like family, and how it can be hard to make friends and keep friends and prioritize friendships in your 20s and 30s and

beyond. Harder than it is when you're a kid or in college and high school. This all came about

because I went to visit Simi and Tim and her son Osh this week. I spent like a week with them and it was so

cozy and wonderful. And it's like all of my mental health things kind of just dissipated when I was

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