Welcome to the three-man-weave college basketball podcast back again.

Matt and Kai, just two of us.

Jim is in process of moving back to Chicago. And Matt, we're

excited about that, aren't we? We are. We are. It's been long overdue. No, it's not true,

but we are excited to have him back as are all of our fellow Chicago brethren. The Windy

City awaits his arrival anxiously. Indeed, it does.

And to replace Jim for this particular podcast, we went out and we got a special guest. We got

Barry Hinson. Upgrade. Upgrade indeed. No offense to Jim. That's just a high praise for Barry

because he was a fantastic interview Matt. I had so much fun just conversating with

him, hilarious storyteller, one-of-a-kind guy and a great coach, 16-year veteran of the Valley,

a couple of years at Oral Roberts, staff on Kansas. Now he's with Oklahoma State. So he's been

around the block. He had a lot of good insights. I enjoyed it.

One of the all-time good guys. And yeah, we, we hit the, we ran the entire gamut in terms of

subjects. So all the hot button topics we talked about. It talked about OK State and just general

laughs and chuckles along the way as are staples with Mr. Hinson whenever you get him on the program. Indeed. And before that, we of course will have Roots Roundup. That's what we're going to do right this moment. We'll do the interview at the end of the show. About a 30 minute interview. So pretty good time for you guys. Good 30. Hope you enjoy it. Jay Pitty, thanks for doing our music, man. You're the guy, whatever, you're the king.

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And you missed last podcast, the mailbag question.

One of the questions was,

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