My guest today is the actor, writer and comic Catherine Ryan. We began by discussing the tears of a cloud. Tell me about your lockdown number two, how's it been?

I don't like it, but what can I say?

You don't like it either.

Can you please make it stop?

You're the Queen, you have powers.

Well, yeah, I will make it stop next week to an extent.

Gigging-wise, did you manage to get anything away?

Did you have any Zoom gigs?

I won't do Zoom gigs at all.

Do you know, thank you for that because I love comedy.

I love going to see comedy.

I will not watch a Zoom comedy.

And I'm not do, I'm not.

And I don't even care if it's disparaging.

I'm like, fuck that, no I won't, no I won't watch it, it's a disgrace.

Like we don't have to become youtubers overnight, like let's just,

we should we need a union. I think we have one but we don't use it properly I don't want to see

comedy highly pixelated with buffering I don't want jokes to be buffered you know

I don't I want that kind of icky sort of the rhythm of a punchline kind of

destroyed by poor internet provider. I don't want to be honked at in a parking lot

I don't want to be like I'm not doing it so I've just

retired basically which it was about my time anyway. That's nonsense you've got to

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