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Welcome to the rest is politics with me, Rory Stewart and me Astakammal. Well, we're in this

very, very strange moment, so we're talking to you just after the first rumors have come

out of Downing Street that Boris Johnson is definitely going, but he hasn't yet appeared

at the podium to make his announcement. We're definitely in the dying days. I mean, it's

been the most, I'd say, I don't know what you think has. Probably the most bizarre, surreal

36 hours ever in British politics. I think that's right, because Johnson yet again has tried

to show that the normal rules of political logic and gravity don't apply to him. If you

compare it with when Margaret Thatcher went, there was a procession of cabinet ministers

to her room. I remember I was hanging around at the end of the corridor. She did in the

House of Commons office and there was a procession of cabinet ministers and it was obvious.

The writing was in the wall. Everybody saw, I remember she had a very nice PPS called

Mark Lennox Boyd. I think, yeah, Mark Lennox Boyd. I remember bumping into him and I could

tell in his eyes that he knew and I said, she's gone. He just nodded and walked on. Whereas

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