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If you believe that when Jesus was dying on the cross, he was dying for some, but not for others.

You usually call that a limited atonement. One of the core beliefs of Calvinist theology.

Do you ever wonder whether you're not among the others or the some for whom Jesus died?

Do you ever wonder whether he was shedding his blood for you or not?

Welcome back to Issues, et cetera. I'm Todd Wilken. Joining us to talk about his journey from Calvinism

to Lutheranism, Flame, Marcus Gray, Grammy-nominated Christian Rapper. He's author of the new book,

Extra Nose, Discovering Grace, Outside Myself. Flame, welcome back.

Thank you for having me. How would you describe the music that you make?

I describe my music as Christian Ratt, particularly because I'm hitting on those biblical

new testament themes related to Jesus' living, dying, resurrecting. So my content is that,

but then connecting the dots between our everyday experience and biblical theology.

Talk about the influence on you of the Christian Ratt group cross movement.

Man, cross movement. Those were the guys who laid the blueprint. They were all inner city artists

from Philadelphia, New York, and they sort of had this cool idea to take Christian content,

systematic theology, put it over beats in the hip hop format, and then use it as an evangelistic

tool to kind of be, I guess, on mission in the inner city. So not only that, they also gave a business

format for making it a career path as well. So I really tip my hat to those guys for giving a

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