At a certain point, I think once your necessities are met, the rest essentially kind of becomes gravy in some senses.

And so I feel obviously very blessed that, you know, we've accumulated enough where I feel very comfortable and secure.

However, I also want to grow it beyond that because to me it's a way to expand and grow myself.

However, I think if you're going to pull the plug, take some time to explore that before you pull the plug and know what you're retiring to or know what you're transitioning to so that you can find fulfillment in that next path and not feel lost in between.

You're listening to the Millionaires Unveiled Podcast,

where you'll hear the stories and interviews of everyday millionaires.

We'll unveil their decisions, their strategies,

and their current portfolio allocation.

Now to your hosts, Clark Sheffield and Jace Matinson.

In fact, this guest comes from the very, very early days of the podcast.

Like I'm talking episode number 18 early early days one of the very first ones that we recorded his name is Michael and at the time he had a net worth of 2.1 million he has since fired more or less and we'll get into a little bit of that today on the

podcast with him and in the update. He's now a little over 2.7. So quite a journey for him as he's fired,

he's continued to grow his net worth.

Once again another amazing guest.

I think you'll really like the conversation that takes place today in the update that we have

with him.

We had one yesterday with Donald if you're interested in

that go check out number 258 or 256 excuse me so without any further delay

let's get into the episode with Michael. Hey we've got Michael

Michael do you want to just give us a little about your background and kind of a refresher for some of our guests who maybe didn't listen to your original episode about you and what you're up to?

Yeah, sure.

So my name is Michael Kwan and I believe I was in the earliest

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