I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hello, everybody, and you are listening to the Sober Four podcast.

I'm Veronica.

And I'm Chip.

Welcome back.

We have an episode kind of following on from the episodes that we did previously that were about grief and mourning. We wanted to talk about the polar opposite. We wanted to talk about joy. Before we get started, we're coming up to our six-year anniversary of this podcast, which is mind-blowing to both of us. Yeah, it is. I thought you were going to say five. And I seemed to remember the last time you did it and you said it five. I went, what? What? I know. I know. Yeah, it's great. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. Ask us anything. So if you have any questions,

there'll be a couple of social media posts. You can put them on social media. Or message us and just

say, I've always wanted to ask you whatever. And it can be anything. All right. Okay.

Whatever you want. It doesn't have to be about sobriety. It can be about anything you've ever

wanted to ask us. Oh, my God.

Are we under legal responsibility to answer the questions, or can we pick and choose?

No, you can pass.

You can pass if you want to.

Okay.

So that's coming up.

And if you enjoy the podcast, make sure you subscribe on whatever app you listen so you don't

miss an episode. And if you have a chance to give us a quick rating, especially if you're on the

Apple podcast thingy, that would be really helpful as well. How to find joy in sobriety.

I just thought that this was a really good topic because, as we were saying before,

like, what's the point otherwise, right? I want to talk about this because, again, it's the

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