Ben, you got your cricket shirts.

You've had time to wear them.

What do you think?

Bob, I love these shirts.

Bob, it's hot outside.

I sweat like crazy.

I overheat.

And so a lot of times what I do is I wear like a nice polo shirt to work, you know,

like a nice collared shirt. But they're all the ones I've got before, they're kind of rough, you know, so you wear an undershirt with them, which just kind of makes it hotter. I can wear these shirts with no undershirt. They're cool, Bob. They look good. That's, that's the 100% Pima Cotton. It's amazing. Like, it's so soft. And it just, the heat, it feels, I used to say about linen pants, it feels like you're not wearing pants, it just feels like your legs are in the shade. This is the first shirt that I've worn that feels like this. And it looks good, man. They got different styles. Like I never even imagine that you could make like a standard polo shirt look so different. Right. I love these collars. I love my favorites, the,

slim fit player's shirt. The range polos are great. You got to go on the cricket website.

It's cricket shirts. That's C-R-I-Q-U-E-T shirts.com. check out everything they have designed in austin texas i love this

company i love what they're doing they've reinvented the polo shirt ben like you said teaching

you could wear sports coat over these things yes and even better i could wear nothing over these

things except for this shirt and it looks good and like like with a good pair, like a good nice pair of jeans and a good pair of dress shoes. And like I feel like I'm getting away with something wearing this to work. You know what I'm saying? Like how am I getting to wear this to work? I wear them to work all the time. Oh yeah. On stage. You were wearing these shirts before they sponsored. That's the amazing thing. So guys, I can't tell you enough. My recommendation would be get a size. If you're on the cusp of two different sizes, get one that's on the smaller size. I was wearing extra large. And I got large. They fit perfectly. They hang nicely they hang nicely cricket shirts couldn't recommend them

more go to cricket shirts.com that's spelled c r i q-u-et shirts.com put in the discount code road to now

for 20% off your first order you're going to dig these shirts I'm bob craw Crawford. I'm Ben Sawyer. And this is the road to now.

That's right. And today's road actually connects quite well because one might say that, you know,

we've merged off of one road onto another one that's somehow parallel to it.

Our last conversation, we talked a lot

about George Wallace, the 1960s, the shifting political terrain with Jefferson Cowley, and today's

topic is LBJ. Yeah, Ben, these two topics could not dovetail any better. Today, our guests are Mark Uptagrove. He's the president and

CEO of the LBJ Foundation. He's an author, ABC Presidential Historian. And Mark Lawrence,

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