I think during those times, it's been so fertile for creativity, so fertile for empathy and learning about myself.

And I think the real gift of having something taken away from you is that you have to fill that space.

And most likely, you're going to do it through positive things.

I mean, once you've had your like, you know, two bottles of wine in the bathtub night,

you will start to fill that space.

Oh, let it out. All right.

All right. Hi. Welcome back. You're listening to Let It Out with me, your host, Katie Delbout.

If you're new, special welcome to you, I hope you stick around. I've been doing this forever, so I have a very robust archive. If you have been listening forever,

an even special or welcome to you, or equally special to all of you, honestly. I'm really

grateful when anyone listens to this podcast because it's such, especially lately, especially

this episode you're about to hear, it's such a

picture of the inside of my mind. These conversations are such a mirror to whatever I happen to be

going through at the moment. And I was thinking about it before I started recording that you guys,

this podcast has been with me through so many things you know i started

it in 2013 i was 22 years old i was living alone in michigan and it was an opportunity for me

to get an hour of time from people i admired and ask them whatever I wanted to know. And that's what I did

today with today's guest, Mari Andrew. You'll hear us talk about the serendipitous way we met

on such a tender day for me. But like I said, this conversation is a mirror to where I've been lately and I've been

sharing about, it feels like emoting about all over New York City and the internet for the past

couple months. But yeah, if you've been listening for a while, you know that I had a breakup.

And if you've been listening for even longer,

you were there when I started that relationship. And I was thinking about, and hi, I'm crying.

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