#254. How to Outline Your Novel With the Hero’s Journey
Fiction Writing Made Easy with Savannah Gilbo | How to Write a Novel & Writing Advice
Savannah Gilbo
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🗓️ 30 June 2026
⏱️ 25 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You've got a story idea you love, and somewhere along the way you heard that the hero's journey |
| 0:04.5 | is the way to structure it. There's 12 stages, you have a hero who leaves home, faces trials, |
| 0:10.2 | and comes back changed. It sounds very clean, it sounds very doable, and it seems like it'll |
| 0:16.0 | make writing a whole novel feel less like an impossible dream and more like a series of steps you can actually |
| 0:21.8 | follow. But here's the thing nobody tells you. Knowing the 12 stages and actually using them to |
| 0:27.3 | outline your novel are two very different things. So today I'm going to walk you through exactly |
| 0:32.3 | how to do it, how to divide your word count into acts where each of the 12 stages lands, |
| 0:37.1 | right down to the percentage |
| 0:38.4 | marks and rough scene numbers for your big turning points, as well as the part that most guides |
| 0:43.3 | on the hero's journey skip entirely. And that is what this framework can't do on its own, |
| 0:48.4 | so you know what your story still needs underneath the hero's journey to hold it all together. |
| 0:56.7 | Welcome to the Fiction made easy podcast. My name is Savannah Gilbo and I'm here to help you write a story that works. |
| 1:02.3 | I want to prove to you that writing a novel doesn't have to be overwhelming. So each week, |
| 1:06.9 | I'll bring you a brand new episode with simple, actionable, and step-by-step strategies that you can |
| 1:12.0 | implement in your writing right away. So whether you're brand new to writing or more of a seasoned |
| 1:16.3 | author looking to improve your craft, this podcast is for you. So pick up a pen and let's get started. |
| 1:22.9 | Okay, so let me paint a picture and tell me if this is you. You've got the hero's journey diagram saved somewhere. You know the one I'm talking about. It's the circle with the 12 |
| 1:31.5 | stages arranged around it like numbers on a clock. Maybe you have it pinned on Pinterest or |
| 1:36.2 | screenshot it on your phone or print it out and taped above your desk. And you've studied it. |
| 1:41.6 | You could probably recite the stages right now if I put you on the spot or at least name a handful of them. |
| 1:47.4 | You've got the ordinary world, the call to adventure, the refusal of the call, and so on and so on. |
| 1:52.8 | And yet, if you're anything like a lot of the writers I talk to, when you sit down to outline your book, you freeze. |
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