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Welcome to the counselling tutor podcast. The must listen to podcast for students of counselling

and psychotherapy. Here are your hosts, Rory Lee's Oaks and Ken Kelly. Hi, I'm Rory. I'm with me.

As always, is Ken. How are you doing, Ken? I'm good. I'm really good. you for asking, Rory. I hope you're well too, Rory. And both Rory and I hope that you are well listening to this. You've joined us for the Counseling Tutor podcast. We're at episode 254, where we're going to be delving into three different topics today, starting off with closing a therapy session. And that, of course,

goes into our theory to practice section of our podcast, where we look at how theory applies

itself in real life counseling. And then in practice today, where we look at contemporary

challenges, issues, things that are of this moment in counselling. We speak about

counselling somebody that may have a celebrity status, some of it that is maybe recognisable,

maybe in Main Street media, maybe from a film or something like that. And then in

practice matters, that's the CPD part of today's podcast uh we have a really interesting topic it's an

interview with katherine sampson on i'm going to have to say this slowly so i get it right because

there's a big word psychotherapeutic there you go i got it psychotherapeutic needs of mothers returning

to work after maternity leave. So that is definitely worth

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