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2501: Didn't See It Coming (Part 1)

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

Society & Culture, True Crime, Technology

4.7 • 2.6K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 13 January 2026

ā±ļø 40 minutes

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Summary

Skeptic Susan Gerbic invited PRETEND inside one of her psychic sting operations. In Part 1 of this three-part series, we go inside "Operation Gobble Gotcha," a Thanksgiving sting targeting celebrity psychic Matt Fraser. Susan and her team of volunteers infiltrate one of Matt's online group readings to observe his techniques in real time. What they witness isn't a connection to the other side. It's a technique called cold reading. And once you see it, you can't unsee it. BINGE ALL THREE EPISODES: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/didnt-see-it-2-147839354?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985 ABOUT SUSAN GERBIC: Susan Gerbic is a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and founder of Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia, a group that has written over 2,000 Wikipedia articles on science and pseudoscience — viewed more than 200 million times. Her most famous investigation, "Operation Pizza Roll," was featured in The New York Times Magazine and exposed medium Thomas John's hot reading techniques. Susan runs the nonprofit About Time, which funds her ongoing psychic investigations. LINKS & RESOURCES: Susan Gerbic's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained About Time Project: https://www.abouttimeproject.org/ NYT Magazine feature on Operation Pizza Roll: https://archive.ph/20190226135004/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:06.0

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0:28.6

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0:35.6

Ladies and gentlemen, he's here. He's live. alive in every drop.

0:44.3

Ladies and gentlemen, he's here, he's live, and he's ready to connect you with the other side.

0:52.3

Please welcome America's top psychic medium and New York Times best-selling author, Matt Frazier.

0:57.2

Meet Matt Fraser.

1:03.8

Matt Fraser claims he is America's top psychic medium, and tonight he's doing an online group reading where you can pay him your hard-earned cash in hopes of maybe, maybe getting

1:10.8

a psychic reading. No promises.

1:13.7

This is the time when your loved ones in spirit are the most active. Because as we get closer

1:18.2

to Halloween, the veil between heaven and earth starts to thin. Now, if you don't know what

1:23.6

the veil is, it's this invisible curtain between our world and the spirit walls.

1:29.3

So is it true that dead loved ones spirits are more active the closer we get to Halloween?

1:35.4

Of course not. This might just be what Matt Fraser believes or wants you to believe. It's not

1:42.0

something supported by science, medicine, psychology, or any major

1:46.0

religion. Because I know that many of you have seen you give readings on television shows,

1:51.0

like the Real Housewives and botched and the doctors. Susan Gerbik, a guerrilla skeptic,

1:56.1

has been following Matt Fraser's psychic career for years. He had a TV show called Meet the Fraser's,

2:02.1

and his wife or his girlfriend was a model.

2:06.6

And so Alexa, I think, is her name.

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