This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.

Hi guys, today I've got a special guest interview for you and that is with Ryan Mickler. He is the host

of the Order of Man podcast and he is the author of the book Sovereignty, the battle for the hearts and

minds of men. Now guys, he and I do a lot of the same things and so it's really cool to talk to

somebody. We even look a lot a lot of like we got red beers and the whole nine, but it's really

fun to have a conversation like this and I'm gonna tell you why because every time I do an interview,

I'm gonna give you a little peek behind the curtain. I always planned it out as if I'm gonna have

an hour and a half with with this person and I almost never do I maybe get, you know, 45 minutes

or 60 minutes or something like that, but I kind of planned it out because I can't always guarantee

that the person I'm talking to is someone that I can really get something out of and put them in

a particular direction or that we're gonna be able to create something because again, I'm thinking

of you guys when I'm talking to these people, I want to make sure that this content is good for you

that you're gonna enjoy it that you're gonna share it around all those types of things,

but I always have to prepare just in case somebody is just kind of a wrote answer person,

they're just gonna kind of give you the answers and move on. This interview was nothing like that.

If you could see my notes for this interview as you're listening along, you're gonna be like,

this is nothing like what you plan for it and that's what made it so awesome.

And just as a quick aside, we had to do some adjustments with some of the things that we're doing

in terms of the interview. So the audio is not perfect. I know you guys are gonna give me

crap for that later, but the audio on my end, the audio on his end is not perfect. It had to be

boosted, had to be put through a couple of different things just so we can make sure that it worked,

but I just wanted to make sure that this conversation got to you. So to audio audio files out there,

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