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Here is a big existential question for every media company today.

Do they fight the AI tech overlords or do they just take their money?

So far, most of them are taking the money.

But a few are fighting.

One of them is Zip Davis.

This is Peter Kafka, the host of channels.

And on this week's episode, I'm talking to Zip Davis, CEO of Vek Shah, who tells me he's

kind of optimistic about the media business and why he's taking on the people behind ChatGBT.

That's this week on channels, wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

How much would Mark Zuckerberg have to pay you for you to want to go work for him over at Meta?

Maybe it's your dream job, so let's say just like 100K.

Maybe you hate Mark with every fiber of your being, so you'd ask for like 10 million.

But if you could sell him on your super intelligence, he might offer you $250 million.

Superintelligence was something that could invent a fusion reactor that humans didn't even understand

or figure out how to do faster than light travel.

And so people here in Silicon Valley started to get really excited and started to spend a lot of money

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