#25 — Behind the Gun

Making Sense with Sam Harris

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🗓️ 14 January 2016

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Sam Harris speaks with former SWAT operator and lead weapons and tactics instructor for the LAPD Metro Division, Scott Reitz. They discuss guns, gun control, police violence, and related topics.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're
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0:47.0	Today I'm speaking with Scott Reitz. Scott is a 30-year veteran of the LAPD. He worked in the Elite
0:54.6	Metropolitan Division and then became a member of D-Team, otherwise known as SWAT. And he finally
1:01.4	became the lead weapons and tactics instructor for the whole Metro Division. So he's a supremely
1:07.0	qualified expert on the topic of guns and the use of force, both legitimate and illegitimate.
1:13.6	And I think you'll find his perspective on these matters quite useful. And now I bring you Scott
1:19.0	Reitz. Okay, well I'm here with Scott Reitz, otherwise known as Uncle Scotty to those of us who have
1:29.4	trained with him. Scotty, thanks for coming on the podcast. Absolutely my pleasure. I can't
1:33.6	thank you enough for having me on. Listen, well there's a lot to talk about and I've been thinking
1:38.2	about how to organize this conversation. I have three broad areas that I want to touch on.
1:45.0	One is just violence in general and self-defense and related topics. The other is guns and gun
1:51.4	control and then finally cops and the challenges of policing. And I think we're probably going to move
1:57.3	back and forth between these areas. But to start let's just talk a little bit about your background
2:03.0	as a police officer and just why is it that you're in a position to have an opinion on these various
2:07.4	topics? Well, I was on LAPD in 1976 until 2006. I did my probation in Wilshire division, which was
2:16.3	a very high division back then. I was wheeled, I mean, it's transferred after one year in the field
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