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Someone was told me that there was Joe Shrive Vocal and there was Joe Exotic. And there's a kind of two different people.

Exactly. Yes. I knew Joe Shrive Vocal. After Brian passed away, Joe Exotic came to be.

And then Joe Shrive Vocal was...

...fun.

Over the years, Joe had made a lot of enemies. But there was one who kept him up at night.

He had just always called her names like that crazy bitch, that hateful bitch. It was always something bitch.

That woman was Carol Baskin.

All he talked about was that she won't leave him alone.

For five years now, Carol had been threatening to shut down Joe's zoo and destroy all that he had built.

He said he needed somebody that was really good with a gun that could take her out.

And now, Joe was ready to put an end to it.

And I said, you need a sniper. And he's like, why, you have one? I said, actually, I do.

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired at B.I. Profile informer in the Ex City prosecutor and writer producer of C.Best is Criminal Minds. And with me today is...

Hello, hello, you cool cats and kittens. It's Laura Richards, Criminal Behavioral Analyst, former New Scotland Yard and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.

And I am Lisa Zambetti. I'm the Casting Director for C.B. Justice Criminal Minds. And welcome to Don't Fuck With Tigers, people.

Don't fuck with the cats. And you probably realize what we're going to discuss.

As I said, hello, you cool cats and kittens giving you a little bit of a clue.

And I got to say, you know, as much as I love doggo's, which I do, Tigers are my favorite animals.

Me too. Me too.

This was a hard watch in so many ways. And of course we're talking about Tiger King.

And we all have very different reactions to it, I think.

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